tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post995696590836961879..comments2023-10-25T11:06:31.861-04:00Comments on The CameraMan: Lots and lots of storage!The CameraManhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17848578016663844759noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-56564581074351755952009-06-23T13:53:20.397-04:002009-06-23T13:53:20.397-04:00Just wanted to say "thank you" to Ari fo...Just wanted to say "thank you" to Ari for that hilarious Mac users comment. It made my day :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-11219097360507995092009-06-20T03:23:07.683-04:002009-06-20T03:23:07.683-04:00just to add clarification , when I mention NAS for...just to add clarification , when I mention NAS for a small setup I mean a USD 50 device such as these http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010010092+1054213783&QksAutoSuggestion=&Configurator=&Subcategory=92&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc= and then add a hard drive to suitAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266205392212315272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-38493907956567820502009-06-20T03:09:05.552-04:002009-06-20T03:09:05.552-04:00thanks John.
I have been using IP cameras with Im...thanks John.<br /><br />I have been using IP cameras with Imagia SoC's and at the moment it is necessary to run a windows machine with the recording software.<br /><br />The Imagia firmware already runs an FTP client , but this is only used during motion detection and will save MPEG4 video or JPEGs , but I am trying to talk them into adding regular FTP recording to it where you can also specify clip length ( I think 30 mins is good ) , storage space to use or time frame before overwriting.<br /><br />This I think can be a great cost saver as many smaller installations just do not monitor so then you only need to add a NAS to the network , which is much cheaper than a full PC + windows.<br /><br />I have also tried the Qnap NAS solution but I think they are overpriced for what they provide.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266205392212315272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-19320647296743540032009-06-20T00:25:20.636-04:002009-06-20T00:25:20.636-04:00Hi Stu,
Building your own is always an option. Fo...Hi Stu,<br /><br />Building your own is always an option. For security installers who don't know or what to learn how to build it themselves, buying a commercial product is probably the best choice.<br /><br />The recording software is typically run on a server. The cameras stream to the recording software/server and the server connects either directly to this unit or via iSCI.John Honovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271257224763036045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-70172750465548981022009-06-20T00:17:48.510-04:002009-06-20T00:17:48.510-04:00so how is the recording done ?
is this FTP storag...so how is the recording done ? <br />is this FTP storage or can you run multi recording software on it ?<br /><br />for just a FTP server I would rather get a 8 sata port motherboard , basic CPU , RAM and a well built power supply and put it in a case with some good fans and then just install FreeNAS - fully controllable through a HTTP GUI , and if you really need more than GigE add another network card.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03266205392212315272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-6721155958709393472009-06-19T19:38:46.450-04:002009-06-19T19:38:46.450-04:00Ari, I'd love to see a test of this box's ...Ari, I'd love to see a test of this box's ability to record (more so than playback). The real-time requirements of sustained writes is the key. Most storage systems can easily handle multiple simultaneous playback sessions, but fall apart after a prolonged period of non-stop write and delete requests. <br /><br />One final point, the price given for the 16TB model suggests that the 2TB drives are being sold for something around $200/ea. Can you say what make/model the drives are? RAID certified 2TB drives are just now coming to market and the costs from manufacturers such as WD and Seagate are much higher than $200. I'd be concerned that these are desktop drives, not really suitable for RAID or the types of duty cycles we need in video (constant writes).Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02008117692180284514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-56073825681433693202009-06-19T13:39:48.949-04:002009-06-19T13:39:48.949-04:00I have not tested it in the field. That said, when...I have not tested it in the field. That said, when the rep came around to show it off, I did my best to break it. I smacked it, I changed settings, I pulled out a hard drive while playing a movie off the other drives. Seemed solid enough. And the movie continued playing after a split-second long blink. <br /><br />Let us be clear. This is not a professional grade system. if you've got 30 PTZs and 20 megapixel cameras, you still need to build a storage array. <br /><br />For "bridge" customers- customers who could use IP cameras but don't really want to because of the price and difficulty of administration- this removes one barrier to entry. Remember, I used an example of a customer wanting to save video from 16 cameras for 30 days.The CameraManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848578016663844759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-6454752947062577212009-06-19T13:17:46.431-04:002009-06-19T13:17:46.431-04:00Hi Ari, Along the line of Steve's question, my...Hi Ari, Along the line of Steve's question, my main concern would he how well it works for higher camera counts. I think it's well proven that connecting a 1TB hard drive for a few cameras works well for video surveillance. How would it perform if there were a dozen megapixel cameras attached?<br /><br />The pricing is 4x to 10x less than standard video surveillance pricing so it's clearly attractive - the big issue is ensuring that there are no performance drawbacks.John Honovichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271257224763036045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3716750173582276051.post-35379117865460187972009-06-19T12:46:44.674-04:002009-06-19T12:46:44.674-04:00Ari, nice indeed. Have you actually hooked one up...Ari, nice indeed. Have you actually hooked one up to a loaded system to see how it performs? I'd be interested in what bitrate it can sustain. Also reliability--an important aspect of our business.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02008117692180284514noreply@blogger.com